Mike and Joao talk more about J.J. Abrams, this time clarifying his comments about Rey’s parents. Then we move onto Joseph Campbell’s discussion of angels and we compare them to the Jedi. In our main topic we discuss Obi-Wan’s False Flag (his “Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father” quote) and how it could have actually resulted in Luke turning to the dark side, and how Vader’s revelation of the truth turned Luke towards the light.